I'm Checkmate, one of the founders of Anime-Sharing. My Vietnamese isn't too good, so allow me to write this in English. You don't have to read this if you don't want to since it's a bit long.
First, I want to tell you a bit about myself. When I first come to Canada in 2007, I was bored. Out of boredom, my perverted friend sent me a few Hentai OVAs. Most of them sucks, generic, and crappy. However, among them was Mizuiro OVA - one of the hentai that I enjoyed the most. Visiting Youtube, I found out a lot of eroge OP, the first two I watched: Nursery Rhyme and Colorful Aquarium, the two OP that brought me to the new world, the eroge world. Since then, I discover, collect,countless TB of eroge. Anime-Sharing Project come along when I meet girlcelly in real life (2008), and several people that contribute substantial efforts to the Project.
Later I've met more people but most of them are trolls except Micchi and dovac. I haven't personally met Micchi yet even though I had a few chances (he's living about 2 hours of driving from my house), and dovac is in U.S (may be... one day). dovac runs yande.re - one of the popular generous scans site and Micchi runs Hau Omochikaeri, the blog that most of you who play eroge should know by now. Both of them influenced how Anime-Sharing turns into: a site that staff are not allowed to bash, troll, and disrespect any visitors and members. I devoted myself into making AS the best place as possible without any monetary gain in mind (hence, you don't see a lot of ads). with 12 bare metal servers, 20 virtualized server, AS probably has the biggest network caliber in the eroge fansite field.
Let me tell you this true story: When I come back to Vietnam in 2011 for summer vacation, I had someone to buy me a prepaid simcard (Vinaphone). That person only give me the simcard without any of the instructions or information leaflet and thus I didn't know how to check my balance or to top up my prepaid account at all. I called a few friends of mine (who is still in Vietnam) and turn out all of them use Mobifone instead of Vinaphone. Though, one of them tell me that I may want to ask on this forum ABC (name censored, but it's a big tech forum in Vietnam). I created a thread in Vietnamese "Làm sao để kiểm tra tiền trong tài khoảng Vinaphone". After half an hour or so, I checked and the first few replies I get is:
"Có thế mà cũng không biết"
"Gọi tổng đài vinaphone mà hỏi ấy"
"dễ vậy mà cũng không biết, bạn đừng xài dtdd nữa"
"Mua sim mới là xong"
...
So I decided to tell them I've just arrived in Vietnam and don't know anything about it, and the thread turn into discussion of which network is better "You should use another phone network etc etc... " but after a while, one of them finally helped me.
I can't help but wonder: Is that how Vietnamese treat each other? Is that how they operate a forum? Full of trolls? I shared this story on the Anime-Sharing IRC to Natsuki_Kono. He's a Vietnamese who recently left for U.S. He frequently on IRC (I don't meet a lot of Vietnamese on IRC... only 2 so far and the other works for Doki Fansub). He told me that it has been like that on almost every forum, including VNSharing. Wow... this is a shocked to me. Well, not like I'd care, since I don't even go on any Vietnamese forum. Turning the time back to 2012, when VNS decided to closed down some section, Natsuki Kono tell me about it, and express his opinion to have a forum for Vietnamese Eroge Player. I thought about it, and after some discussions and agreements, Hako was born. It's all thanks to Natsuki Kono, and I don't know if he's even have an account here after everything.
Now, I really don't want to see Hako to be another ... Vietnamese faggotry forum, and thus I put my faith in the Hako's leaders. I want to Hako to be the pioneers for the future of Vietnam eroge's fanbase. Greatness from small beginnings. You guys are the first generation of greatness, but that doesn't mean you can go around and look down to the new comers. Being the pioneers, you have great responsibilities, setting a strong foundation, or else it will crumble in no time. What I mean is that you should help everyone, new comers or experienced players. Be courtesy, be nice, be patient, be honest, don't be faggots, don't be a troll. And so when the new comers learn the culture from you, they will behave the same, and we will have a strong foundation to stand on. Also, stop with epenis. (ra vẻ ta đây nick đỏ, ta dây ngon hơn) It's a merit, a reward that everyone recognize you as a great helper, there's a lot more to be improved from there.
That brings me to the monthly review. I'm going to be honest that I'm really dissapointed with the month review. Well let's be straight here: You guys are translating from Micchi's blog, there's nothing wrong with it, but what's really wrong is that you guys are bashing the game without a clear understanding of it. Tell me, did you actually play it in Japanese to understand the writing style? How many eroge did you truly play that let you judge what's good and what's bad? Even English trans fan translation is bad enough let alone machine translation... Now if the answer is no to BOTH of it, then, IMO, you have no right to bash it.
Personally, I myself learn Japanese since 2010, but I haven't really gotten very far to it (may be 100 kanjis/combination, and some grammar here and there, I can read some but I can't speak/write), I've played well over 100 eroges and I don't even call myself an eroge player yet. Now let me give you a small example:
Sakura Sakura Festival
Moving forward, now, since I kind of understand that none of us actually know Japanese to be able to comment on eroge in a correct way, why don't we change it a bit. Why don't you guys comment on who do the art, who write the story, and what's the writing style/art style. Writing a bit about company, each company have different kind of game, sometimes they changed, but most of the time they have one style: for example: Lump of Sugar, their kind of game is always laid back, the story isn't serious, Lump of Sugar is a famous for having magic cope a really nonsense story, moe character, and ero ero ero to no end. Saga Planet? Hell, plot are much darker, story are much deeper. If you don't really know about them at all, then may be you should take time to learn. Hell I know most of them but I don't even dare to bash any and I don't think anyone here have that right.
With that said, may be you should consider thinking of what kind of eroge monthly write up would be. Not this nonsense crap. It's fine to do it between friends but on an official article (stickied too) in Hako? I would like to remind that every visitor read what you write, what you write can decide the future of Hako, and probably the entire Vietnam eroge fanbase. Consider limiting the use of English in official article as well.
Also, you guys should learn Japanese. Yeah sure, "I'm busy" is a good excuse but a really lame one. I'm busy too and probably everyone else, yet I'm still be able to do it, so there's no reason for you not able to, you just don't want to put effort to. A better excuse would be "I'm broke and I cannot afford for going to a Japanese class" but then, I don't think it's that expensive either. In short, you have to put your effort into something to make it happen. Aside knowing more than one language gives you an advantage in life. Trust me. I can speak English and French (yeah, I'm in Quebec) and I get good employment rate than most people because of that.
That's enough rants from me now, it's a bit longer than I'd like it to be anyhow.
First, I want to tell you a bit about myself. When I first come to Canada in 2007, I was bored. Out of boredom, my perverted friend sent me a few Hentai OVAs. Most of them sucks, generic, and crappy. However, among them was Mizuiro OVA - one of the hentai that I enjoyed the most. Visiting Youtube, I found out a lot of eroge OP, the first two I watched: Nursery Rhyme and Colorful Aquarium, the two OP that brought me to the new world, the eroge world. Since then, I discover, collect,countless TB of eroge. Anime-Sharing Project come along when I meet girlcelly in real life (2008), and several people that contribute substantial efforts to the Project.
Later I've met more people but most of them are trolls except Micchi and dovac. I haven't personally met Micchi yet even though I had a few chances (he's living about 2 hours of driving from my house), and dovac is in U.S (may be... one day). dovac runs yande.re - one of the popular generous scans site and Micchi runs Hau Omochikaeri, the blog that most of you who play eroge should know by now. Both of them influenced how Anime-Sharing turns into: a site that staff are not allowed to bash, troll, and disrespect any visitors and members. I devoted myself into making AS the best place as possible without any monetary gain in mind (hence, you don't see a lot of ads). with 12 bare metal servers, 20 virtualized server, AS probably has the biggest network caliber in the eroge fansite field.
Let me tell you this true story: When I come back to Vietnam in 2011 for summer vacation, I had someone to buy me a prepaid simcard (Vinaphone). That person only give me the simcard without any of the instructions or information leaflet and thus I didn't know how to check my balance or to top up my prepaid account at all. I called a few friends of mine (who is still in Vietnam) and turn out all of them use Mobifone instead of Vinaphone. Though, one of them tell me that I may want to ask on this forum ABC (name censored, but it's a big tech forum in Vietnam). I created a thread in Vietnamese "Làm sao để kiểm tra tiền trong tài khoảng Vinaphone". After half an hour or so, I checked and the first few replies I get is:
"Có thế mà cũng không biết"
"Gọi tổng đài vinaphone mà hỏi ấy"
"dễ vậy mà cũng không biết, bạn đừng xài dtdd nữa"
"Mua sim mới là xong"
...
So I decided to tell them I've just arrived in Vietnam and don't know anything about it, and the thread turn into discussion of which network is better "You should use another phone network etc etc... " but after a while, one of them finally helped me.
I can't help but wonder: Is that how Vietnamese treat each other? Is that how they operate a forum? Full of trolls? I shared this story on the Anime-Sharing IRC to Natsuki_Kono. He's a Vietnamese who recently left for U.S. He frequently on IRC (I don't meet a lot of Vietnamese on IRC... only 2 so far and the other works for Doki Fansub). He told me that it has been like that on almost every forum, including VNSharing. Wow... this is a shocked to me. Well, not like I'd care, since I don't even go on any Vietnamese forum. Turning the time back to 2012, when VNS decided to closed down some section, Natsuki Kono tell me about it, and express his opinion to have a forum for Vietnamese Eroge Player. I thought about it, and after some discussions and agreements, Hako was born. It's all thanks to Natsuki Kono, and I don't know if he's even have an account here after everything.
Now, I really don't want to see Hako to be another ... Vietnamese faggotry forum, and thus I put my faith in the Hako's leaders. I want to Hako to be the pioneers for the future of Vietnam eroge's fanbase. Greatness from small beginnings. You guys are the first generation of greatness, but that doesn't mean you can go around and look down to the new comers. Being the pioneers, you have great responsibilities, setting a strong foundation, or else it will crumble in no time. What I mean is that you should help everyone, new comers or experienced players. Be courtesy, be nice, be patient, be honest, don't be faggots, don't be a troll. And so when the new comers learn the culture from you, they will behave the same, and we will have a strong foundation to stand on. Also, stop with epenis. (ra vẻ ta đây nick đỏ, ta dây ngon hơn) It's a merit, a reward that everyone recognize you as a great helper, there's a lot more to be improved from there.
That brings me to the monthly review. I'm going to be honest that I'm really dissapointed with the month review. Well let's be straight here: You guys are translating from Micchi's blog, there's nothing wrong with it, but what's really wrong is that you guys are bashing the game without a clear understanding of it. Tell me, did you actually play it in Japanese to understand the writing style? How many eroge did you truly play that let you judge what's good and what's bad? Even English trans fan translation is bad enough let alone machine translation... Now if the answer is no to BOTH of it, then, IMO, you have no right to bash it.
Personally, I myself learn Japanese since 2010, but I haven't really gotten very far to it (may be 100 kanjis/combination, and some grammar here and there, I can read some but I can't speak/write), I've played well over 100 eroges and I don't even call myself an eroge player yet. Now let me give you a small example:
Sakura Sakura Festival
To begin with Sakura Sakura is not a nukige. Further more, it's a good eroge. It has a very decent plot if you ever played it, the writing was good and the pace was well done. In fact, a lot of eroge god (those who play MOST if not all eroge) are looking forward to its fandisc. And yet, here we are... both of our commenter are bashing it without knowing what it is. In business term, we call this an "Error 1" which is a most serious error: calling something bad/reject something without having enough evidence to make such conclusion.Oboku-sama: Crappy nukige. Let's throw it away. Pass.
Pandora: Chả biết chất lượng sơ muối kiểu gì nên mình cũng pass mặc dù cover có vẻ hấp dẫn.
Moving forward, now, since I kind of understand that none of us actually know Japanese to be able to comment on eroge in a correct way, why don't we change it a bit. Why don't you guys comment on who do the art, who write the story, and what's the writing style/art style. Writing a bit about company, each company have different kind of game, sometimes they changed, but most of the time they have one style: for example: Lump of Sugar, their kind of game is always laid back, the story isn't serious, Lump of Sugar is a famous for having magic cope a really nonsense story, moe character, and ero ero ero to no end. Saga Planet? Hell, plot are much darker, story are much deeper. If you don't really know about them at all, then may be you should take time to learn. Hell I know most of them but I don't even dare to bash any and I don't think anyone here have that right.
With that said, may be you should consider thinking of what kind of eroge monthly write up would be. Not this nonsense crap. It's fine to do it between friends but on an official article (stickied too) in Hako? I would like to remind that every visitor read what you write, what you write can decide the future of Hako, and probably the entire Vietnam eroge fanbase. Consider limiting the use of English in official article as well.
Also, you guys should learn Japanese. Yeah sure, "I'm busy" is a good excuse but a really lame one. I'm busy too and probably everyone else, yet I'm still be able to do it, so there's no reason for you not able to, you just don't want to put effort to. A better excuse would be "I'm broke and I cannot afford for going to a Japanese class" but then, I don't think it's that expensive either. In short, you have to put your effort into something to make it happen. Aside knowing more than one language gives you an advantage in life. Trust me. I can speak English and French (yeah, I'm in Quebec) and I get good employment rate than most people because of that.
That's enough rants from me now, it's a bit longer than I'd like it to be anyhow.
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